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- Preface
- 1 - Installation
- 2 - Hardware Description
- 2.1 - USB
- 2.2 - Status LED
- 2.3 - GND and SGND
- 2.4 - VS
- 2.5 - Flexible I/O (FIO/EIO)
- 2.6 - AIN
- 2.6.1 - Channel Numbers
- 2.6.2 - Converting Binary Readings to Voltages
- 2.6.3 - Typical Analog Input Connections
- 2.6.3.1 - Signal from the LabJack
- 2.6.3.2 - Unpowered Isolated Signal
- 2.6.3.3 - Signal Powered By the LabJack
- 2.6.3.4 - Signal Powered Externally
- 2.6.3.5 - Amplifying Small Signal Voltages
- 2.6.3.6 - Signal Voltages Beyond 0-2.44 Volts (and Resistance Measurement)
- 2.6.3.7 - Measuring Current (Including 4-20 mA) with a Resistive Shunt
- 2.6.3.8 - Floating/Unconnected Inputs
- 2.6.3.9 - Signal Voltages Near Ground
- 2.6.4 - Internal Temperature Sensor
- 2.7 - DAC
- 2.8 - Digital I/O
- 2.9 - Timers/Counters
- 2.9.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.9.1.1 - PWM Output (16-Bit, Mode 0)
- 2.9.1.2 - PWM Output (8-Bit, Mode 1)
- 2.9.1.3 - Period Measurement (32-Bit, Modes 2 & 3)
- 2.9.1.4 - Duty Cycle Measurement (Mode 4)
- 2.9.1.5 - Firmware Counter Input (Mode 5)
- 2.9.1.6 - Firmware Counter Input With Debounce (Mode 6)
- 2.9.1.7 - Frequency Output (Mode 7)
- 2.9.1.8 - Quadrature Input (Mode 8)
- 2.9.1.9 - Timer Stop Input (Mode 9)
- 2.9.1.10 - System Timer Low/High Read (Modes 10 & 11)
- 2.9.1.11 - Period Measurement (16-Bit, Modes 12 & 13)
- 2.9.1.12 - Line-to-Line Measurement (Mode 14)
- 2.9.2 - Timer Operation/Performance Notes
- 2.9.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.10 - SPC (… and SCL/SDA/SCA)
- 2.11 - DB15
- 2.12 - U3-OEM
- 2.13 - Hardware Revision Notes
- 3 - Operation
- 4 - LabJackUD High-Level Driver
- 4.1 - Overview
- 4.2 - Function Reference
- 4.2.1 - ListAll()
- 4.2.2 - OpenLabJack()
- 4.2.3 - eGet() and ePut()
- 4.2.4 - eAddGoGet()
- 4.2.5 - AddRequest()
- 4.2.6 - Go()
- 4.2.7 - GoOne()
- 4.2.8 - GetResult()
- 4.2.9 - GetFirstResult() and GetNextResult()
- 4.2.10 - DoubleToStringAddress()
- 4.2.11 - StringToDoubleAddress()
- 4.2.12 - StringToConstant()
- 4.2.13 - ErrorToString()
- 4.2.14 - GetDriverVersion()
- 4.2.15 - TCVoltsToTemp()
- 4.2.16 - ResetLabJack()
- 4.2.17 - eAIN()
- 4.2.18 - eDAC()
- 4.2.19 - eDI()
- 4.2.20 - eDO()
- 4.2.21 - eTCConfig()
- 4.2.22 - eTCValues()
- 4.3 - Example Pseudocode
- 4.3.1 - Open
- 4.3.2 - Configuration
- 4.3.3 - Analog Inputs
- 4.3.4 - Analog Outputs
- 4.3.5 - Digital I/O
- 4.3.6 - Timers & Counters
- 4.3.7 - Stream Mode
- 4.3.8 - Raw Output/Input
- 4.3.9 - Easy Functions
- 4.3.10 - SPI Serial Communication
- 4.3.11 - I²C Serial Communication
- 4.3.12 - Asynchronous Serial Communication
- 4.3.13 - Watchdog Timer
- 4.3.14 - Miscellaneous
- 4.4 - Errorcodes
- 5 - Low-level Function Reference
- 5.1 - General Protocol
- 5.2 - Low-Level Functions
- 5.2.1 - Bad Checksum
- 5.2.2 - ConfigU3
- 5.2.3 - ConfigIO
- 5.2.4 - ConfigTimerClock
- 5.2.5 - Feedback
- 5.2.5.1 - AIN: IOType = 1
- 5.2.5.2 - WaitShort: IOType=5
- 5.2.5.3 - WaitLong: IOType=6
- 5.2.5.4 - LED: IOType=9
- 5.2.5.5 - BitStateRead: IOType=10
- 5.2.5.6 - BitStateWrite: IOType=11
- 5.2.5.7 - BitDirRead: IOType=12
- 5.2.5.8 - BitDirWrite: IOType=13
- 5.2.5.9 - PortStateRead: IOType=26
- 5.2.5.10 - PortStateWrite: IOType=27
- 5.2.5.11 - PortDirRead: IOType=28
- 5.2.5.12 - PortDirWrite: IOType=29
- 5.2.5.13 - DAC# (8-bit): IOType=34,35
- 5.2.5.14 - DAC# (16-bit): IOType=38,39
- 5.2.5.15 - Timer#: IOType=42,44
- 5.2.5.16 - Timer#Config: IOType=43,45
- 5.2.5.17 - Counter#: IOType=54,55
- 5.2.5.18 - Buzzer: IOType=63
- 5.2.6 - ReadMem (ReadCal)
- 5.2.7 - WriteMem (WriteCal)
- 5.2.8 - EraseMem (EraseCal)
- 5.2.9 - Reset
- 5.2.10 - StreamConfig
- 5.2.11 - StreamStart
- 5.2.12 - StreamData
- 5.2.13 - StreamStop
- 5.2.14 - Watchdog
- 5.2.15 - SPI
- 5.2.16 - AsynchConfig
- 5.2.17 - AsynchTX
- 5.2.18 - AsynchRX
- 5.2.19 - I²C
- 5.2.20 - SHT1X
- 5.2.21 - SetDefaults (SetToFactoryDefaults)
- 5.2.22 - ReadDefaults (ReadCurrent)
- 5.2.23 - 1-Wire
- 5.3 - Errorcodes
- 5.4 - Calibration Constants
- Appendix A - Specifications
- Appendix B - Enclosure and PCB Drawings
- U3 Firmware Revision History
- U6 Datasheet
- Preface: Warranty, Liability, Compliance
- 1 - Installation
- 2 - Hardware Description
- 2.1 - USB
- 2.2 - Power and Status LED
- 2.3 - GND and SGND
- 2.4 - VS
- 2.5 - 10UA and 200UA
- 2.6 - AIN
- 2.6.1 - Channel Numbers
- 2.6.2 - Converting Binary Readings to Voltages
- 2.6.3 - Typical Analog Input Connections
- 2.6.3.1 - Signal from the LabJack
- 2.6.3.2 - Unpowered Isolated Signal
- 2.6.3.3 - Signal Powered By the LabJack
- 2.6.3.4 - Signal Powered Externally
- 2.6.3.5 - Amplifying Small Signal Voltages
- 2.6.3.6 - Signal Voltages Beyond ±10 Volts (and Resistance Measurement)
- 2.6.3.7 - Measuring Current (Including 4-20 mA) with a Resistive Shunt
- 2.6.3.8 - Floating/Unconnected Inputs
- 2.6.4 - Internal Temperature Sensor
- 2.6.5 - Signal Range
- 2.7 - DAC
- 2.8 - Digital I/O
- 2.9 - Timers/Counters
- 2.9.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.9.1.1 - PWM Output (16-Bit, Mode 0)
- 2.9.1.2 - PWM Output (8-Bit, Mode 1)
- 2.9.1.3 - Period Measurement (32-Bit, Modes 2 & 3)
- 2.9.1.4 - Duty Cycle Measurement (Mode 4)
- 2.9.1.5 - Firmware Counter Input (Mode 5)
- 2.9.1.6 - Firmware Counter Input With Debounce (Mode 6)
- 2.9.1.7 - Frequency Output (Mode 7)
- 2.9.1.8 - Quadrature Input (Mode 8)
- 2.9.1.9 - Timer Stop Input (Mode 9)
- 2.9.1.10 - System Timer Low/High Read (Modes 10 & 11)
- 2.9.1.11 - Period Measurement (16-Bit, Modes 12 & 13)
- 2.9.1.12 - Line-to-Line Measurement (Mode 14)
- 2.9.2 - Timer Operation/Performance Notes
- 2.9.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.10 - SPC (or VSPC)
- 2.11 - DB37
- 2.12 - DB15
- 2.13 - OEM Connector Options
- 3 - Operation
- 4 - LabJackUD High-Level Driver
- 4.1 - Overview
- 4.2 - Function Reference
- 4.2.1 - ListAll()
- 4.2.2 - OpenLabJack()
- 4.2.3 - eGet() and ePut()
- 4.2.4 - eAddGoGet()
- 4.2.5 - AddRequest()
- 4.2.6 - Go()
- 4.2.7 - GoOne()
- 4.2.8 - GetResult()
- 4.2.9 - GetFirstResult() and GetNextResult()
- 4.2.10 - DoubleToStringAddress()
- 4.2.11 - StringToDoubleAddress()
- 4.2.12 - StringToConstant()
- 4.2.13 - ErrorToString()
- 4.2.14 - GetDriverVersion()
- 4.2.15 - TCVoltsToTemp()
- 4.2.16 - ResetLabJack()
- 4.2.17 - eAIN()
- 4.2.18 - eDAC()
- 4.2.19 - eDI()
- 4.2.20 - eDO()
- 4.2.21 - eTCConfig()
- 4.2.22 - eTCValues()
- 4.3 - Example Pseudocode
- 4.3.1 - Open
- 4.3.2 - Configuration
- 4.3.3 - Analog Inputs
- 4.3.4 - Analog Outputs
- 4.3.5 - Digital I/O
- 4.3.6 - Timers & Counters
- 4.3.7 - Stream Mode
- 4.3.8 - Raw Output/Input
- 4.3.9 - Easy Functions
- 4.3.10 - SPI Serial Communication
- 4.3.11 - I²C Serial Communication
- 4.3.12 - Asynchronous Serial Communication
- 4.3.13 - Watchdog Timer
- 4.3.14 - Miscellaneous
- 4.4 - Errorcodes
- 5 - Low-level Function Reference
- 5.1 - General Protocol
- 5.2 - Low-Level Functions
- 5.2.1 - Bad Checksum
- 5.2.2 - ConfigU6
- 5.2.3 - ConfigIO
- 5.2.4 - ConfigTimerClock
- 5.2.5 - Feedback
- 5.2.5.1 - AIN: IOType = 1
- 5.2.5.2 - AIN24: IOType = 2
- 5.2.5.3 - AIN24AR: IOType = 3
- 5.2.5.4 - WaitShort: IOType=5
- 5.2.5.5 - WaitLong: IOType=6
- 5.2.5.6 - LED: IOType=9
- 5.2.5.7 - BitStateRead: IOType=10
- 5.2.5.8 - BitStateWrite: IOType=11
- 5.2.5.9 - BitDirRead: IOType=12
- 5.2.5.10 - BitDirWrite: IOType=13
- 5.2.5.11 - PortStateRead: IOType=26
- 5.2.5.12 - PortStateWrite: IOType=27
- 5.2.5.13 - PortDirRead: IOType=28
- 5.2.5.14 - PortDirWrite: IOType=29
- 5.2.5.15 - DAC# (8-bit): IOType=34,25
- 5.2.5.16 - DAC# (16-bit): IOType=38,39
- 5.2.5.17 - Timer#: IOType=42,44,46,48
- 5.2.5.18 - Timer#Config: IOType = 43, 45, 47, 49
- 5.2.5.19 - Counter#: IOType = 54, 55
- 5.2.6 - ReadMem (ReadCal)
- 5.2.7 - WriteMem (WriteCal)
- 5.2.8 - EraseMem (EraseCal)
- 5.2.9 - SetDefaults (SetToFactoryDefaults)
- 5.2.10 - ReadDefaults (ReadCurrent)
- 5.2.11 - Reset
- 5.2.12 - StreamConfig
- 5.2.13 - StreamStart
- 5.2.14 - StreamData
- 5.2.15 - StreamStop
- 5.2.16 - Watchdog
- 5.2.17 - SPI
- 5.2.18 - AsynchConfig
- 5.2.19 - AsynchTX
- 5.2.20 - AsynchRX
- 5.2.21 - I²C
- 5.2.22 - SHT1X
- 5.2.23 - 1-Wire
- 5.3 - Errorcodes
- 5.4 - Calibration Constants
- Appendix A - Specifications
- Appendix B - Noise and Resolution Tables
- Appendix C - Enclosure and PCB Drawings
- U6 Firmware Revision History
- T7 Datasheet
- Preface: Warranty, Liability, Compliance
- 1.0 Device Overview
- 2.0 Installation
- 3.0 Communication
- 4.0 Hardware Overview
- 5.0 USB
- 6.0 Ethernet
- 7.0 WiFi (T7-Pro only)
- 8.0 LEDs
- 9.0 VS, Power Supply
- 10.0 SGND and GND
- 11.0 SPC
- 12.0 200uA and 10uA
- 13.0 Digital I/O
- 13.1 DIO Extended Features
- 13.1.1 EF Clock Source
- 13.1.2 PWM Out
- 13.1.3 PWM Out with Phase
- 13.1.4 Pulse Out
- 13.1.5 Frequency In
- 13.1.6 Pulse Width In
- 13.1.7 Line-to-Line In
- 13.1.8 High-Speed Counter
- 13.1.9 Interrupt Counter
- 13.1.10 Interrupt Counter with Debounce
- 13.1.11 Quadrature In
- 13.1.12 Interrupt Frequency In
- 13.1.13 Conditional Reset
- 13.2 I2C
- 13.3 SPI
- 13.4 SBUS
- 13.5 1-Wire
- 13.6 Asynchronous Serial
- 13.1 DIO Extended Features
- 14.0 AIN
- 15.0 DAC
- 16.0 DB37
- 17.0 DB15
- 18.0 Internal Temp Sensor
- 19.0 RTC (T7-Pro only)
- 20.0 Internal Flash
- 21.0 SD Card
- 22.0 OEM Versions
- 23.0 Watchdog
- 24.0 IO Config, _DEFAULT
- 25.0 Lua Scripting
- Appendix A - Specifications
- Appendix B - Enclosure and PCB Drawings
- Appendix C - Firmware Revision History
- Appendix D - Packaging Information
- Digit Datasheet
- UE9 Datasheet
- Preface
- 1 - Installation
- 2 - Hardware Description
- 2.1 - USB
- 2.2 - Ethernet
- 2.3 - Vext (Screw Terminals and Power Jack)
- 2.4 - Comm and Control LEDs
- 2.5 - GND and SGND
- 2.6 - Vs
- 2.7 - AIN
- 2.7.1 - Channel Numbers
- 2.7.2 - Converting Binary Readings to Voltages
- 2.7.3 - Typical Analog Input Connections
- 2.7.3.1 - Signal from the LabJack
- 2.7.3.2 - Unpowered Isolated Signal
- 2.7.3.3 - Signal Powered by the LabJack
- 2.7.3.4 - Signal Powered Externally
- 2.7.3.5 - Amplifying Small Signal Voltages
- 2.7.3.6 - Signal Voltages Beyond ±5 Volts (and Resistance Measurement)
- 2.7.3.7 - Measuring Current (Including 4-20 mA) with a Resistive Shunt
- 2.7.3.8 - Floating/Unconnected Inputs
- 2.7.4 - Internal Temperature Sensor
- 2.8 - DAC
- 2.9 - Digital I/O
- 2.10 - Timers/Counters
- 2.10.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.10.1.1 - PWM Output (16-Bit, Mode 0)
- 2.10.1.2 - PWM Output (8-Bit, Mode 1)
- 2.10.1.3 - Period Measurement (32-Bit, Modes 2 & 3)
- 2.10.1.4 - Duty Cycle Measurement (Mode 4)
- 2.10.1.5 - Firmware Counter Input (Mode 5)
- 2.10.1.6 - Firmware Counter Input With Debounce (Mode 6)
- 2.10.1.7 - Frequency Output (Mode 7)
- 2.10.1.8 - Quadrature Input (Mode 8)
- 2.10.1.9 - Timer Stop Input (Mode 9)
- 2.10.1.10 - System Timer Low/High Read (Modes 10 & 11)
- 2.10.1.11 - Period Measurement (16-Bit, Modes 12 & 13)
- 2.10.2 - Timer Operation/Performance Notes
- 2.10.1 - Timer Mode Descriptions
- 2.11 - SCL and SDA (or SCA)
- 2.12 - DB37
- 2.13 - DB15
- 2.14 - OEM Connector Options
- 3 - Operation
- 4 - LabJackUD High-Level Driver
- 4.1 - Overview
- 4.2 - Function Reference
- 4.2.1 - ListAll()
- 4.2.2 - OpenLabJack()
- 4.2.3 - eGet() and ePut()
- 4.2.4 - eAddGoGet()
- 4.2.5 - AddRequest()
- 4.2.6 - Go()
- 4.2.7 - GoOne()
- 4.2.8 - GetResult()
- 4.2.9 - GetFirstResult() and GetNextResult()
- 4.2.10 - DoubleToStringAddress()
- 4.2.11 - StringToDoubleAddress()
- 4.2.12 - StringToConstant()
- 4.2.13 - ErrorToString()
- 4.2.14 - GetDriverVersion()
- 4.2.15 - TCVoltsToTemp()
- 4.2.16 - ResetLabJack()
- 4.2.17 - eAIN()
- 4.2.18 - eDAC()
- 4.2.19 - eDI()
- 4.2.20 - eDO()
- 4.2.21 - eTCConfig()
- 4.2.22 - eTCValues()
- 4.3 - Example Pseudocode
- 4.3.1 - Open
- 4.3.2 - Configuration
- 4.3.3 - Analog Inputs
- 4.3.4 - Analog Outputs
- 4.3.5 - Digital I/O
- 4.3.6 - Timers & Counters
- 4.3.7 - Stream Mode
- 4.3.8 - Raw Output/Input
- 4.3.9 - Easy Functions
- 4.3.10 - SPI Serial Communication
- 4.3.11 - I²C Serial Communication
- 4.3.12 - Asynchronous Serial Communication
- 4.3.13 - Watchdog Timer
- 4.3.14 - Miscellaneous
- 4.4 - Errorcodes
- 5 - Low-level Function Reference
- 5.1 - General Protocol
- 5.2 - Comm Functions
- 5.3 - Control Functions
- 5.3.1 - BadChecksum
- 5.3.2 - ControlConfig
- 5.3.3 - Feedback (and FeedbackAlt)
- 5.3.4 - SingleIO
- 5.3.5 - TimerCounter
- 5.3.6 - StreamConfig
- 5.3.7 - StreamStart
- 5.3.8 - StreamData
- 5.3.9 - StreamStop
- 5.3.10 - ReadMem
- 5.3.11 - WriteMem
- 5.3.12 - EraseMem
- 5.3.13.1 - WatchdogConfig
- 5.3.13.2 - WatchdogRead
- 5.3.13.3 - Extended WatchdogConfig
- 5.3.13.4 - WatchdogClear
- 5.3.15 - Reset
- 5.3.16 - SPI
- 5.3.17 - AsynchConfig
- 5.3.18 - AsynchTX
- 5.3.19 - AsynchRX
- 5.3.20 - I²C
- 5.3.21 - SHT1X
- 5.3.22 - StreamDAC
- 5.3.23 - SetDefaults (SetToFactoryDefaults)
- 5.3.24 - ReadDefaults (ReadCurrent)
- 5.3.25 - 1-Wire
- 5.4 - Low-Level Errorcodes
- 5.5 - Modbus
- 5.6 - Calibration Constants
- 6 - Low-level Native Examples
- Appendix A - Specifications
- Appendix B - Noise and Resolution Tables
- Appendix C - Enclosure and PCB Drawings
- UE9 Firmware Revision History
- U12 Datasheet
- 1 - Installation
- 2 - Hardware Description
- 3 - Example Applications
- 4 - Programming Reference
- 4.1 - EAnalogIn
- 4.2 - EAnalogOut
- 4.3 - ECount
- 4.4 - EDigitalIn
- 4.5 - EDigitalOut
- 4.6 - AISample
- 4.7 - AIBurst
- 4.8 - AIStreamStart
- 4.9 - AIStreamRead
- 4.10 - AIStreamClear
- 4.11 - AOUpdate
- 4.12 - AsynchConfig
- 4.13 - Asynch
- 4.14 - BitsToVolts
- 4.15 - VoltsToBits
- 4.16 - Counter
- 4.17 - DigitalIO
- 4.18 - GetDriverVersion
- 4.19 - GetErrorString
- 4.20 - GetFirmwareVersion
- 4.21 - GetWinVersion
- 4.22 - ListAll
- 4.23 - LocalID
- 4.24 - NoThread
- 4.25 - PulseOut
- 4.26 - PulseOutStart
- 4.27 - PulseOutFinish
- 4.28 - PulseOutCalc
- 4.29 - ReEnum
- 4.30 - Reset (or ResetLJ)
- 4.31 - SHT1X
- 4.32 - SHTComm
- 4.33 - SHTCRC
- 4.34 - Synch
- 4.35 - Watchdog
- 4.36 - ReadMem
- 4.37 - WriteMem
- 4.38 - BuildOptionBits (ActiveX only)
- 4.39 FourPack (ActiveX only)
- 4.40 - Description of Errorcodes
- 5 - Low-Level Function Reference
- Appendix A - Specifications
- Appendix B - Dimensions
- Appendix C - U12 Hardware Troubleshooting
- Appendix D - Maximum Data Rates for the LabJack U12
- Accessories
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7 comments
T7-Pro OEM version. Is it
T7-Pro OEM version.
Is it possible to send and receive data from the board under vb6 used as GUI?
from VB6 GUI sending cmd like mscomm.output a,123 data...
how it is done in vb6 to send similar data in wifi, Eternet?
Erol
Yes, It is possible to send
Yes, It is possible to send and receive data from the board in VB6. First open the device using the OpenS() or Open() functions, then use the handle to write or read values from the device. The open call is very similar for WiFi, Ethernet and USB, simply use OpenS(T7, WiFi, ANY), or OpenS(T7, Ethernet, ANY), or OpenS(T7, USB, ANY). See LJM_OpenS for more details on the open call.
Have you thought of making it
Have you thought of making it a com object that can call its own memory and thread. This would allow for use in Dot Net and C# J# VB C++ calls with out much trouble in coding. Since VBA is nice to use inside excel spread sheets but would be more use full to attach to web services or other custom services. If the peek poke driver was built in a COM object interface the porting would be more easier to all application models.
Just wondering?
With simple VBA example done
With simple VBA example done in Excel 2000, when I run it I got 1298 LJME_ATTR_LOAD_COMM_FAILURE. Running in excel 2013
Usually that error occurs
Usually that error occurs when you are trying to open an unsupported device in the LJM driver. The LJM driver, which this example uses, only supports the T7 and Digit currently. If you are using a UE9, U6 or U3, use the examples from here:
http://labjack.com/support/ud/examples/visual-basic
If you are using a T7 and are getting this error, can you tell us the connection type you are trying to use (Any, USB, Ethernet, TCP, or WiFi). If you didn't modify the example's VBA code the connection type is Any.
Ljackuwx.ocx missing
I have downloaded and installed LJM Library and the VBA examples but cannot find the ocx file anywhere!?
The active-x component
The active-x component ljackuwx.ocx is for the U12 and is not used by the LJM VB examples.